# \[Solved\] How do I stop groups from fading when I touch their child components?
**URL:** https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-how-do-i-stop-groups-from-fading-when-i-touch-their-child-components/1896430
**Category:** Questions about Thunkable X
**Created:** [May 26, 2022, 6:59am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-how-do-i-stop-groups-from-fading-when-i-touch-their-child-components/1896430 "2022-05-26T06:59:09Z")
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### Author:  [@ferrarofcfei](https://community.thunkable.com/u/ferrarofcfei)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2022, 6:59am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-how-do-i-stop-groups-from-fading-when-i-touch-their-child-components/1896430/1 "2022-05-26T06:59:09Z")
I have searched the community and it seems to be a bug.
Do you have a solution?
I realized that in the new editor there are no more rows and columns to organize the screen, so I used groups, but that created a problem:
When I try to click on a control (which I made very small) I can’t because the group is clicked.
How can I solve this problem?
Should I create the screen without groups?
Do the rows and columns no longer exist?
Click on first group
Clik on second group
This is Live Test on Iphone 13
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### Author:  [@muneer](https://community.thunkable.com/u/muneer)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2022, 8:23am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-how-do-i-stop-groups-from-fading-when-i-touch-their-child-components/1896430/2 "2022-05-26T08:23:36Z")
When you add components in your screen, you will see the `left pane` builds a tree like representation of your components.
Make sure the `Group` component is at a lower order than the components inside it. You can only click on components that are at higher order than the `group` containing them.
Hope that is clear.
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### Author:  [@ferrarofcfei](https://community.thunkable.com/u/ferrarofcfei)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2022, 8:28am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-how-do-i-stop-groups-from-fading-when-i-touch-their-child-components/1896430/3 "2022-05-26T08:28:30Z")
I understand what you are saying, but in this way the purpose of the group falls:
1. have the coordinates of the elements relative to the group reference
2. move the group around the screen (moving all objects at once)
3. make the group not visible and make all objects disappear
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### Author:  [@muneer](https://community.thunkable.com/u/muneer)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2022, 8:36am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-how-do-i-stop-groups-from-fading-when-i-touch-their-child-components/1896430/4 "2022-05-26T08:36:53Z")
I’m not getting you. All what you explained happens when you create the group first then add the components. If you have the components added first then you add a group, you will get this behavior but not all the time.
I have not noticed this with the latest update but this was happening on and off.
Are you sure what you try to click on is part of the group and not placed behind the group?
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### Author:  [@ferrarofcfei](https://community.thunkable.com/u/ferrarofcfei)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2022, 8:49am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-how-do-i-stop-groups-from-fading-when-i-touch-their-child-components/1896430/5 "2022-05-26T08:49:21Z")
It does not matter what you create first, if you can place an object within a group, this object becomes a child of the group and therefore its coordinates are relative to the Father’zero and its visibility is related to the Father’s visibility.
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### Author:  [@ferrarofcfei](https://community.thunkable.com/u/ferrarofcfei)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2022, 8:56am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-how-do-i-stop-groups-from-fading-when-i-touch-their-child-components/1896430/6 "2022-05-26T08:56:37Z")
here’s how I organized the screens
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### Author:  [@muneer](https://community.thunkable.com/u/muneer)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2022, 9:00am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-how-do-i-stop-groups-from-fading-when-i-touch-their-child-components/1896430/7 "2022-05-26T09:00:37Z")
> [@ferrarofcfei](#):
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> organized the screens
Can you point out the component that does not respond to your click and instead the group is the one responding?
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> [@ferrarofcfei](#):
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> if you can place an object within a group, this object becomes a child of the group
This is true if you want all the objects to be part of the group. In some cases you want an object to be **floating** above the group in which case it will look like it is part of the group but in reality it isn’t. In this case the `floating object` should be above the group in the tree.
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### Author:  [@ferrarofcfei](https://community.thunkable.com/u/ferrarofcfei)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2022, 9:19am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-how-do-i-stop-groups-from-fading-when-i-touch-their-child-components/1896430/8 "2022-05-26T09:19:07Z")
You are right, I expressed myself wrongly, sorry.
Actually it is not true that the checkbox does not respond to the click, but you have to center it very well otherwise the click is taken by the group.
Since the checkbox is very small, there are more times when the click goes to the group than when it goes to the checkbox.
It would take a group property that says, “not clickable.”
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### Author:  [@ferrarofcfei](https://community.thunkable.com/u/ferrarofcfei)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2022, 1:47pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-how-do-i-stop-groups-from-fading-when-i-touch-their-child-components/1896430/9 "2022-05-30T13:47:19Z")
the real problem is that all objects are clickable and the ability to click cannot be disabled, which is very confusing to end users.
I understand all the programming difficulties, but this is a paid service, not even very cheap, it should be more reliable.
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### Author:  [@tatiang](https://community.thunkable.com/u/tatiang)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2022, 3:15pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-how-do-i-stop-groups-from-fading-when-i-touch-their-child-components/1896430/10 "2022-05-30T15:15:12Z")
Yes, we need a way to disable the click detection for a group. I posted about this in another topic but we should create a feature request here on the forums and on GitHub.
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### Author:  [@ferrarofcfei](https://community.thunkable.com/u/ferrarofcfei)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-how-do-i-stop-groups-from-fading-when-i-touch-their-child-components/1896430/11 "2022-05-30T15:26:14Z")
Honestly it is full of bugs, I regretted choosing this way.
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### Author:  [@jared](https://community.thunkable.com/u/jared)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-how-do-i-stop-groups-from-fading-when-i-touch-their-child-components/1896430/12 "2022-05-30T15:34:59Z")
What is confusing? i feel like I’m missing something here, sorry.
If it’s clickable, shouldn’t the user be able to click it?
You can hide the group click fading behavior.
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### Author:  [@ferrarofcfei](https://community.thunkable.com/u/ferrarofcfei)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-how-do-i-stop-groups-from-fading-when-i-touch-their-child-components/1896430/13 "2022-05-30T15:58:19Z")
the labels, groups and images usually do not have to be selectable, if the user sees that clicking has a fading behavior, he expects him to do a function. how do you get rid of the fading behavior of these elements?
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### Author:  [@jared](https://community.thunkable.com/u/jared)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2022, 4:02pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-how-do-i-stop-groups-from-fading-when-i-touch-their-child-components/1896430/14 "2022-05-30T16:02:23Z")
Go to any app with a group
Click the group.
Look at the propert panel, there’s a touch opacity setting 🙂
Play with that to find the optimal setting (try a value of 100)
It’s not a bug, but totally disabling group clicks is a feature request we have on our list! 🙂
It’s likely that the group is so small and when you touch it your finger overlaps to the parent group.
Can you make the area to touch bigger?
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### Author:  [@ferrarofcfei](https://community.thunkable.com/u/ferrarofcfei)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2022, 9:52am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-how-do-i-stop-groups-from-fading-when-i-touch-their-child-components/1896430/15 "2022-06-01T09:52:07Z")
yes I enlarged it, but the fader at 100 doesn’t resolve
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### Author:  [@domhnallohanlon](https://community.thunkable.com/u/domhnallohanlon)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2022, 11:22am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-how-do-i-stop-groups-from-fading-when-i-touch-their-child-components/1896430/16 "2022-06-01T11:22:15Z")
> [@ferrarofcfei](#):
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> but the fader at 100 doesn’t resolve
Are you using the latest version of Thunkable Live @ferrarofcfei?
I thought that 100 worked fine for me - does a higher value (i.e. 1000?) work any better?
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### Author:  [@system](https://community.thunkable.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2022, 11:22am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-how-do-i-stop-groups-from-fading-when-i-touch-their-child-components/1896430/17 "2022-08-30T11:22:58Z")
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