# Securing Firebase with SMS verification or Email help needed
**URL:** https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341
**Category:** Questions about Thunkable X
**Tags:** firebase
**Created:** [March 24, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341 "2019-03-24T19:48:45Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@maxb](https://community.thunkable.com/u/maxb)
#### Post date: [March 24, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/1 "2019-03-24T19:48:46Z")
(I edited this cause it was a useless post, sorry for that).
I really need some help with firebase as I’d like to secure the user data without requiring him to use the email.
I’ ve successfully implemented a 2 steps verification process through SMS and I don’t want to use the email, is it possible to have a secure firebase without email login?
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### Author:  [@domhnallohanlon](https://community.thunkable.com/u/domhnallohanlon)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2019, 9:35am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/2 "2019-03-25T09:35:18Z")
Hi @maxb, welcome to the Thunkable community.
One quick note, you should only use #thunkable-cross-tutorials if you have written a tutorial about using Thunkable X, so I’ve moved this to #thunkable-cross
When you say:
> [@maxb](#):
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> I’ve done all the correct steps
do you mean you’ve followed all of [these steps](https://docs.thunkable.com/realtime-db)?
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### Author:  [@maxb](https://community.thunkable.com/u/maxb)
#### Post date: [June 17, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/3 "2019-06-17T15:10:31Z")
Thx @domhnallohanlon and sorry, I edited this post cause I was just a noob ^^
What I need is to let the user access his data and only his and make all the data secure from outside attacks.
How can I? ☹
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### Author:  [@maxb](https://community.thunkable.com/u/maxb)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2019, 3:42pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/4 "2019-05-02T15:42:13Z")
I’d like to have firebase authentication through SMS OTP, without using the email (slower and less userfriendly), is it possible in Thunk X?
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### Author:  [@maxb](https://community.thunkable.com/u/maxb)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2019, 12:34pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/5 "2019-06-10T12:34:36Z")
I am using an external webapi SMS service that has SMS OTP verification service (paid) but I would like to use it to secure firebase so that every user can access only to its data.
Is it possible?
Please help.
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### Author:  [@maxb](https://community.thunkable.com/u/maxb)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/6 "2019-07-09T14:27:24Z")
Why is this so complicate ☹?
I’m dwelling on #thunkable-cross and I don’t know what to do, ad I’m even trying to have an SMS OTP security only, I wanna cry 😭
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### Author:  [@domhnallohanlon](https://community.thunkable.com/u/domhnallohanlon)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2019, 2:29pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/7 "2019-07-09T14:29:13Z")
@maxb this is a tutorial for Classic - which platform are you using?
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### Author:  [@maxb](https://community.thunkable.com/u/maxb)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2019, 2:33pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/8 "2019-07-09T14:33:46Z")
@domhnallohanlon I was looking for any help possible, I’m on #thunkable-cross
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### Author:  [@domhnallohanlon](https://community.thunkable.com/u/domhnallohanlon)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/9 "2019-07-09T14:35:59Z")
Have you created a topic about this in #thunkable-cross somewhere?
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### Author:  [@maxb](https://community.thunkable.com/u/maxb)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2019, 2:38pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/10 "2019-07-09T14:38:08Z")
I edited the title of this old post,
> [@Securing Firebase with SMS verification or Email help needed](http://community.thunkable.com/t/i-really-need-help-understanding-firebase-security-help-please/73341):
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> (I edited this cause it was a useless post, sorry for that). I really need some help with firebase as I’d like to secure the user data without requiring him to use the email. I’ ve successfully implemented a 2 steps verification process through SMS and I don’t want to use the email, is it possible to have a secure firebase without email login?
and also made this one
> [@Firebase SMS security authentication without email possibile?](http://community.thunkable.com/t/firebase-sms-security-authentication-without-email-possibile/75692):
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> I’d like to have firebase authentication through SMS OTP, without using the email (slower and less userfriendly), is it possible in Thunk X?
but I had no luck at all ☹☹☹
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### Author:  [@domhnallohanlon](https://community.thunkable.com/u/domhnallohanlon)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/11 "2019-07-09T14:46:56Z")
Got it.
Ok - a couple of things.
1. Please don’t post about the same question in multiple topics. I’ve merged your three topics into a single one now.
2. Have you seen anyone else do this? If you have docs with sms-only verification then please share them so that people who are familiar with this can guide you.
3. Why does your app _have_ to have this feature? If it was me I would be more concerned with launching my app and building a user base. If you find that one or two users have duplicate accounts then you can manually delete them. If it gets to be too big a number then perhaps you need to ask some questions about the type of app you are building?
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### Author:  [@maxb](https://community.thunkable.com/u/maxb)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/12 "2019-07-09T14:52:44Z")
1 - Ok, sorry.
2 - I’ve searched #thunkable-cross and found nothing ‘firebase official’ about SMS OTP, but I managed to find a third party service that can send the OTP but I don’t know if I can use that to secure firebase.
3 - I’d prefer to use the more user friendly SMS OTP instead of the complicate email sign in as the userbase should be any age.
What do you mean here?
> [@domhnallohanlon](#):
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> If it was me I would be more concerned with launching my app and building a user base
I’m concerned to make firebase secure so that hackers can’t access the data
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### Author:  [@maxb](https://community.thunkable.com/u/maxb)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/13 "2019-07-26T15:17:12Z")
Anybody can help?
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### Author:  [@kartik\_old](https://community.thunkable.com/u/kartik_old)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2019, 12:57pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/14 "2019-07-27T12:57:48Z")
Why don’t u apply a ID login in your app?
Generate an ID for each user, then secure the user;s data with login id…
the user with the correct login id can only view the data…
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### Author:  [@maxb](https://community.thunkable.com/u/maxb)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2019, 1:00pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/15 "2019-07-27T13:00:13Z")
That’s the last resource, but I think that I will have to do it.
I prefer to avoid email log in and only use SMS OTP as it’s easier and faster, but I don’t know if I can authentcate the user with only that in thunkable
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### Author:  [@kartik\_old](https://community.thunkable.com/u/kartik_old)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2019, 1:01pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/16 "2019-07-27T13:01:07Z")
> [@maxb](#):
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> SMS OTP as it’s easier and fast
did u use it?
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### Author:  [@maxb](https://community.thunkable.com/u/maxb)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2019, 1:01pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/17 "2019-07-27T13:01:34Z")
With a third party service, not the firebase one
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### Author:  [@kartik\_old](https://community.thunkable.com/u/kartik_old)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2019, 1:02pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/18 "2019-07-27T13:02:37Z")
Ok… I can’t get your concrete problem…
Can u explain me what’s yr one & only problem?
Thanks!
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### Author:  [@maxb](https://community.thunkable.com/u/maxb)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2019, 1:04pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/19 "2019-07-27T13:04:15Z")
authenticate the user so he uploads his data and can’t see other users data
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### Author:  [@kartik\_old](https://community.thunkable.com/u/kartik_old)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2019, 1:05pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/securing-firebase-with-sms-verification-or-email-help-needed/73341/20 "2019-07-27T13:05:13Z")
> [@maxb](#):
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> and can’t see other users data
& if u don’t authenticate him, how will he be able to see other’s data?
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