# Permission for calling

**URL:** <https://community.thunkable.com/t/permission-for-calling/58182>\
**Category:** Questions about Thunkable X\
**Created:** [November 26, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/permission-for-calling/58182 "2018-11-26T19:20:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Vedran\_Majnaric](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e9a140/32.png) [@Vedran\_Majnaric](https://community.thunkable.com/u/Vedran_Majnaric)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/permission-for-calling/58182/1 "2018-11-26T19:20:41Z")

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Hi i got this message from google:

Hello Google Play Developer,

In October, we [announced updates](https://www.google.com/appserve/mkt/p/ABMBUQPgcN-0ge8DfVTf1SDKSUuVpSg4iQIxHljGq7psl4-GrqjQwFpFflKdCxJYCbgHrW5_XgRgwbJFWaz3acfCjwAtRuy-pkDmCIu_sYGexP-_bmknUZJdrhDMNvtkQZxcdHLwx79Z15BwmPXdmXzkjJtjdjA92-2ddllCnGhC) to our Permissions policy that will limit which apps are allowed to request Call Log and SMS permissions. **This policy will impact one or more of your apps.**

Only an app that has been selected as a user’s default app for making calls or text messages, or whose core functionality is approved for one of the exception use cases, will be able to request access to Call Log or SMS permissions.

**Action required**

Below, we’ve listed apps from your catalog which do not meet the requirements for permission requests. **Please remove any disallowed or unused permissions from your app’s manifest** (specified below), migrate to an alternative implementation (e.g. SMS Retriever API for most cases of OTP verification), or evaluate if your app qualifies for an exception.

**Next steps**

1. Read through the [Permissions](https://www.google.com/appserve/mkt/p/ABMBUQMEJpe-rsH0aOomgCYPz8FngF0ihPWFvJudNyMHpTGNS2mCAWLUJNwMtznPdFEwG4nUz-W_zM5l0yJEnUnCVFyB0Q-mtmg1qC4WeiFuW6RLERoA_evH9JFCmkgNB3eiPecoqukxXns) policy and the [Play Console Help Center article](https://www.google.com/appserve/mkt/p/ABMBUQMjaHRAv9S7TfUL7RVHjRlMfNrCyDAAfiKqGdN3U25OSkY-J2VUxatvGoA54klKVwgUhFwIR3BIitxvV-pdzPPb-0TOMO6uMYsxswByC_foEs8BnZrnJqVe8gQ_N16Cb7fC0zlcuuVe), which describes intended uses, exceptions, invalid uses, and alternative implementation options for usage of Call Log or SMS permissions.
2. Update your app or submit a [Permissions Declaration Form](https://www.google.com/appserve/mkt/p/ABMBUQP64j6f_Eg0NoFWA-Y8vMR2n82dqyGjves5JvYxWVpBnQ17ScPeutXF8aPyBRdElnXByfHmlJhPo1XG2mP7xQMKIlRQ-A6p2YeDvWbYoO7WRI4_dNzO_qSXYCtQxHckB_m-_TI1t7ca56zmCccwzkBIvUyw-wVgeOSh04VFYmZ41EVo74o).

- **Option 1) If your app does not require access to Call Log or SMS permissions:** Make appropriate changes to your app by removing the specified permissions from your app’s manifest or migrating to an available alternative implementation by **January 9, 2019**.
- **Option 2) If your app is a default handler or you believe your app qualifies for an exception:** Please submit a request via the [Permissions Declaration Form](https://www.google.com/appserve/mkt/p/ABMBUQP64j6f_Eg0NoFWA-Y8vMR2n82dqyGjves5JvYxWVpBnQ17ScPeutXF8aPyBRdElnXByfHmlJhPo1XG2mP7xQMKIlRQ-A6p2YeDvWbYoO7WRI4_dNzO_qSXYCtQxHckB_m-_TI1t7ca56zmCccwzkBIvUyw-wVgeOSh04VFYmZ41EVo74o). _You do not need to have implemented APK changes in order to submit a form._ Declaration Forms received by **January 9, 2019** may be eligible for additional time to make changes to bring their app(s) into compliance. If you have recently submitted a Permissions Declaration Form, we are in the process of reviewing your information and will respond to your application.

1. Make sure that your app is otherwise compliant with all other [Developer Program Policies](https://www.google.com/appserve/mkt/p/ABMBUQMAO0zGKbTeTOdn7qTsVqyxassZdPcRvG0lQSdUbgnsneIvkRzOnOg6W0PDjgEOp1N1YRB-LByYsnqVBvZFZLiCDrhoHvXvgjPKjaV1W100ljJFFwQBrnane_b_Nw) to prevent your app from being removed.

Alternatively, you can choose to unpublish the app.

Our [Developer Program Policies](https://www.google.com/appserve/mkt/p/ABMBUQM2r4EwRwrZzNg5OzaVrI853l9GU2tA2ueeQEhrFznAUr8hv4_xgYbhbAr4TSqCKVRpXEr0IfutUJW3LeHE5MwLWWD5WJIdAaPATCoWEd8j08GpiNmLnCTN) are designed to provide a safe and secure experience for our users while also giving developers the tools they need to succeed. That is why we will remove apps that violate our policies. In cases of repeated or serious violations of our policies, we may also terminate your developer account and any related developer accounts.

We appreciate your willingness to partner with us as we make these improvements to better protect users.

**Affected apps**

Affected apps and permissions are listed below, up to 20; if you have additional apps, please ensure that they are also compliant with the Permissions policy.

com.thunkable.android.vmajnaric74.Speed\_Dial PROCESS\_OUTGOING\_CALLS, READ\_CALL\_LOG, WRITE\_CALL\_LOG

How i can get permission for my app ?

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**Author:** ![snk666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@snk666](https://community.thunkable.com/u/snk666)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/permission-for-calling/58182/2 "2018-12-30T16:16:43Z")

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Hi! how you solve it? i got the same question

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**Author:** ![domhnallohanlon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/domhnallohanlon/32/29554_2.png) [@domhnallohanlon](https://community.thunkable.com/u/domhnallohanlon)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/permission-for-calling/58182/3 "2018-12-30T18:06:30Z")

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Hi @snk666,

If you rebuild and reupload your app this should be resolved now:

> [@Why is my app requesting permissions for contacts, camera, etc?](http://community.thunkable.com/t/why-is-my-app-requesting-permissions-for-contacts-camera-etc/61807/11):
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> Because of how Thunkable X apps are built, they will ask for all of the permissions that any Thunkable app could possibly use. Long term this won’t be the case, but that’s how it’s setup right now. I think we’ve removed the SMS permission from Thunkable X apps in a recent release, so if you download your apk again, then the SMS permission won’t be there, and this e-mail from Google Play will not affect you.

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**Author:** ![snk666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@snk666](https://community.thunkable.com/u/snk666)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/permission-for-calling/58182/4 "2018-12-30T18:42:25Z")

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Thanks @domhnallohanlon I´ll try it

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**Author:** ![Christopher\_Rogers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/94ad74/32.png) [@Christopher\_Rogers](https://community.thunkable.com/u/Christopher_Rogers)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 1:47pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/permission-for-calling/58182/5 "2019-01-01T13:47:25Z")

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Wait… we have to rebuild the entire app? or can we just reupload?

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**Author:** ![domhnallohanlon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/domhnallohanlon/32/29554_2.png) [@domhnallohanlon](https://community.thunkable.com/u/domhnallohanlon)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/permission-for-calling/58182/6 "2019-01-01T15:35:27Z")

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Sorry, that was a bit ambiguous. By “rebuild” I meant you should just build the .apk again (i.e. download you app again!) as opposed to making/rebuilding the whole thing again from scratch.

Apologies for the confusion/minor heart attack! 😂

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**Author:** ![Julianinho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/julianinho/32/20824_2.png) [@Julianinho](https://community.thunkable.com/u/Julianinho)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/permission-for-calling/58182/7 "2019-01-04T17:45:45Z")

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Hi @domhnallohanlon

I have received this mail by google and he tell me that i have to “Remove the specified Call or SMS permissions”.  
If i understand your solution, just re-download on thunkable is ok ?  
I do change the number version of apk ?

Thanks

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**Author:** ![Julianinho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/julianinho/32/20824_2.png) [@Julianinho](https://community.thunkable.com/u/Julianinho)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/permission-for-calling/58182/8 "2019-01-07T21:22:52Z")

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Up 😉  
Thanks

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**Author:** ![Julianinho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/julianinho/32/20824_2.png) [@Julianinho](https://community.thunkable.com/u/Julianinho)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/permission-for-calling/58182/9 "2019-01-11T17:34:49Z")

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Up  
Thanks 😉

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**Author:** ![domhnallohanlon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/domhnallohanlon/32/29554_2.png) [@domhnallohanlon](https://community.thunkable.com/u/domhnallohanlon)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/permission-for-calling/58182/10 "2019-01-11T20:21:42Z")

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What happened when you downloaded the app and resubmitted it?

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**Author:** ![Julianinho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/julianinho/32/20824_2.png) [@Julianinho](https://community.thunkable.com/u/Julianinho)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/permission-for-calling/58182/11 "2019-01-11T20:58:58Z")

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@domhnallohanlon  
Nothing.

So if i understand, just re-download the apk on thunkable and upoad it on googleplay is work to remove permission sms ?  
I do change the number version of apk ?

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**Author:** ![domhnallohanlon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/domhnallohanlon/32/29554_2.png) [@domhnallohanlon](https://community.thunkable.com/u/domhnallohanlon)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/permission-for-calling/58182/12 "2019-01-11T21:24:58Z")

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Yep, that’s why I recommend it.

You can increment you version number in your app settings.

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**Author:** ![Julianinho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/julianinho/32/20824_2.png) [@Julianinho](https://community.thunkable.com/u/Julianinho)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/permission-for-calling/58182/13 "2019-01-12T12:42:12Z")

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Ok thanks for help 😉

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**Author:** ![domhnallohanlon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/domhnallohanlon/32/29554_2.png) [@domhnallohanlon](https://community.thunkable.com/u/domhnallohanlon)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 2:08pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/permission-for-calling/58182/14 "2019-01-12T14:08:10Z")

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Did it work ok for you?

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**Author:** ![Julianinho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/julianinho/32/20824_2.png) [@Julianinho](https://community.thunkable.com/u/Julianinho)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/permission-for-calling/58182/15 "2019-01-13T15:04:00Z")

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I don’t know if permission is removing.  
Where i can see this ? In control panel GooglePlay ?

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**Author:** ![Julianinho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/julianinho/32/20824_2.png) [@Julianinho](https://community.thunkable.com/u/Julianinho)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 11:27am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/permission-for-calling/58182/16 "2019-02-07T11:27:23Z")

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@domhnallohanlon

I have a problem, i have receved an email of google that is say that he have delete my application because the permission call/sms is still on my application, but i don’t understand why because i have re-download on thunkable and re-upload it like you says.

Have you any idea ?

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**Author:** ![ioannis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/ioannis/32/146956_2.png) [@ioannis](https://community.thunkable.com/u/ioannis)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 11:52am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/permission-for-calling/58182/17 "2024-11-08T11:52:10Z")

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