# Need help with Apple Publishing / Navigator crashes
**URL:** https://community.thunkable.com/t/need-help-with-apple-publishing-navigator-crashes/1311503
**Category:** Questions about Thunkable X
**Created:** [May 27, 2021, 3:27pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/need-help-with-apple-publishing-navigator-crashes/1311503 "2021-05-27T15:27:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 13
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### Author:  [@tatiang](https://community.thunkable.com/u/tatiang)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/need-help-with-apple-publishing-navigator-crashes/1311503/21 "2021-05-27T17:21:18Z")
> [@catsarisky](#):
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> UPDATE: the new screen references a screen that doesn’t exist. If you don’t fix that, it crashes.
How do you mean?
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### Author:  [@catsarisky](https://community.thunkable.com/u/catsarisky)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/need-help-with-apple-publishing-navigator-crashes/1311503/22 "2021-05-27T17:23:19Z")
There’s a navigate to block that has a screen in it that must have been deleted.
BUT, having said that, I made a new copy and that one crashes. So I’m stumped.
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### Author:  [@tatiang](https://community.thunkable.com/u/tatiang)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/need-help-with-apple-publishing-navigator-crashes/1311503/23 "2021-05-27T17:23:51Z")
I did notice the navigate block but because that requires a click and the app crashes right when the screen is selected from the navigator, I wasn’t worried about it.
**Update:** the app crashes even with NO components and NO background picture on the Start New ID screen.
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### Author:  [@catsarisky](https://community.thunkable.com/u/catsarisky)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/need-help-with-apple-publishing-navigator-crashes/1311503/24 "2021-05-27T17:25:20Z")
_boggle_
And now it is not crashing. I’m stumped.
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### Author:  [@tatiang](https://community.thunkable.com/u/tatiang)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/need-help-with-apple-publishing-navigator-crashes/1311503/25 "2021-05-27T17:30:25Z")
Welcome to my world! That was the whole day for me yesterday: same code, different results.
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> \### Platform
> Thunkable X, Thunkable Live 268-8 on iPhone 11 running iOS 14.4.2
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> \### Issue/Request Origin
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> \### Steps to Reproduce
> 1. Live test a project on Thunkable Live
> 2. Cached content appears instead of new content
> 3. Force-quit Thunkable Live and re-open it
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> \### Project Link
> Various projects. I know it's hard without a link but this happens so often that I don't have a specific project in mind. I can see if I can find a simple one where this happens.
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> \### Expected Behavior
> I would expect the current content in the Design & Blocks tabs to appear when Live Testing in Thunkable Live. I would also hope that if that wasn't the case that Thunkable X would somehow check/verify that the new content was going to be loaded and if NOT, then display an error message instead of just showing cached/old content.
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> \### Actual Behavior
> See above.
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> STACK TRACE AND/OR SCREENSHOTS
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### Author:  [@catsarisky](https://community.thunkable.com/u/catsarisky)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/need-help-with-apple-publishing-navigator-crashes/1311503/26 "2021-05-27T17:51:15Z")
I pretty much always kill and restart Live in order to get an update - it often doesn’t sync otherwise, especially if my phone has gone to sleep. But even that wasn’t working well yesterday/today.
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### Author:  [@tatiang](https://community.thunkable.com/u/tatiang)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2021, 9:34pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/need-help-with-apple-publishing-navigator-crashes/1311503/27 "2021-05-27T21:34:53Z")
So I never use Navigators in my apps but I just added one to a project and when I preview it, I see the same crash message you posted above.
You may want to submit a bug report:
> [@Report Bugs and Submit Product Feedback](https://community.thunkable.com/t/report-bugs-and-submit-feature-requests-in-our-public-github-repository/31760):
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### Author:  [@codabanksqb06as](https://community.thunkable.com/u/codabanksqb06as)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2021, 12:03am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/need-help-with-apple-publishing-navigator-crashes/1311503/28 "2021-05-28T00:03:38Z")
Just read through all your replies. Yes, I would like to do one big screen for all my data, but since it’s a decision tree I’m not sure how I could.
I will look into a corrupt image of some kind- might as well.
I happen to have about eight different copies of this project, in various stages, just sitting around. Oddly enough, some only crash halfway… Namely, I can navigate to my Species ID pages (Groups), but I cannot navigate into my choice pages. That crashes the app.
I also am not seeing missing blocks or deleted screens anywhere in there.
I will also mention that it has been working fine up until recently.
I will send a message to Thunkable as well and see what they have to say.
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### Author:  [@codabanksqb06as](https://community.thunkable.com/u/codabanksqb06as)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2021, 12:05am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/need-help-with-apple-publishing-navigator-crashes/1311503/29 "2021-05-28T00:05:47Z")
Which screen specifically are you talking about? Incidentally I had issues with a “Glossary”. Wondering if that’s still messing up things for me?
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### Author:  [@catsarisky](https://community.thunkable.com/u/catsarisky)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2021, 1:41am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/need-help-with-apple-publishing-navigator-crashes/1311503/30 "2021-05-28T01:41:16Z")
> [@codabanksqb06as](#):
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> Which screen specifically are you talking about?
The stripped down project @tatiang posted - he probably caused the missing screen.
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### Author:  [@tatiang](https://community.thunkable.com/u/tatiang)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2021, 3:17am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/need-help-with-apple-publishing-navigator-crashes/1311503/31 "2021-05-28T03:17:28Z")
Don’t worry about the screen reference / missing screen.
The bottom line is that something is crashing the Start New ID screen in the navigator. It’s that screen specifically but since I also had my own project crash, it may be a bug much larger than just one corrupt screen. Anyway, I would re-create that screen and then delete the original screen and see if that fixes the crash issue.
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### Author:  [@codabanksqb06as](https://community.thunkable.com/u/codabanksqb06as)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2021, 3:10am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/need-help-with-apple-publishing-navigator-crashes/1311503/32 "2021-05-31T03:10:18Z")
Thanks for the help. I messed around and poked a bit, deleted a few unused screens and blocks… and it works! I’m not exactly sure what it was, but it is working now.
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### Author:  [@ioannis](https://community.thunkable.com/u/ioannis)
#### Post date: [November 8, 2024, 1:22pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/need-help-with-apple-publishing-navigator-crashes/1311503/33 "2024-11-08T13:22:18Z")
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