# Issue with "when Screen Starts" event since Jan 12, 2021
**URL:** https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954
**Category:** Questions about Thunkable X
**Created:** [January 13, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954 "2021-01-13T17:23:13Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@antje.smilesyft](https://community.thunkable.com/u/antje.smilesyft)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/24 "2021-01-13T19:23:32Z")
Thanks. I did this on all screens where I found issues. It’s always running through from beginning to end and speaks to me as it should, the issues remain. So, for example, the speech blocks are executed but the screen remains blank where blocks should have been cloned and made visible.
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### Author:  [@drted](https://community.thunkable.com/u/drted)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2021, 7:39pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/25 "2021-01-13T19:39:56Z")
A few more questions:
- I’m not seeing the blocks where List\_Viewer\_NE is cloned. Can you share those blocks?
- Aside from cloning, if you make List\_viewer\_NE visible, are you able to see the initial prompt text or is it blank as well?
- Is app variable initial\_prompt reused on mulitple screens or within other functions besides the open event? If there are event timing issues, mulitple processes could be causing issues.
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### Author:  [@antje.smilesyft](https://community.thunkable.com/u/antje.smilesyft)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2021, 8:12pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/29 "2021-01-13T20:12:22Z")
> [@drted](#):
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> I’m not seeing the blocks where List\_Viewer\_NE is cloned. Can you share those blocks?
On this screen, I am not cloning anything.
> [@drted](#):
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> Aside from cloning, if you make List\_viewer\_NE visible, are you able to see the initial prompt text or is it blank as well?
It’s visible the entire time and blank.
> [@drted](#):
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> Is app variable initial\_prompt reused on mulitple screens or within other functions besides the open event?
It’s only used on this one screen. Until yesterday, it has been working perfectly 🙂
> [@antje.smilesyft](#):
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> when testing in Thunkable Live on Android
I just tested on my old iPhone 6s, iOS 12.4 and everything appears normal there. None of the issues are happening for me when testing on this device.
On my Samsung Galaxy S10, Android 10, the issues are there.
!!Edit: Same issues in iPhone 6s now.
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### Author:  [@drted](https://community.thunkable.com/u/drted)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/30 "2021-01-13T20:43:57Z")
Great detail, thanks!
If you replace app variable initial\_prompt with a string block in the open event, does it appear? I know Wei mentioned some app variable changes recently.
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### Author:  [@antje.smilesyft](https://community.thunkable.com/u/antje.smilesyft)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 9:14am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/32 "2021-01-14T09:14:07Z")
No, that doesn’t change anything. List viewer still not appearing on the screen.
Edit: Same issues in iPhone 6s now.
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### Author:  [@oreeldadln](https://community.thunkable.com/u/oreeldadln)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 9:19am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/34 "2021-01-14T09:19:49Z")
Its not just the list viewer its everything that connected to the when open screen block.
This is happening in ios and android - live test and downloaded versions.
please fix it asap.
Its not something we can work with or ignore like the long lasting status bar issue.
It is critical for people who need to release versions…
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### Author:  [@drted](https://community.thunkable.com/u/drted)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 10:51am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/35 "2021-01-14T10:51:03Z")
Definitely sounds like the open event is not occurring.
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### Author:  [@domhnallohanlon](https://community.thunkable.com/u/domhnallohanlon)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 11:19am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/36 "2021-01-14T11:19:50Z")
> [@oreeldadln](#):
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> its everything that connected to the when open screen block.
Hey @oreeldadln - if you change it from “open” to “starts” does that make a difference?
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> [@drted](#):
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> sounds like the open event is not occurring
Sounds like it. I’ll start looking into this so and see if I can reproduce any of these issue.
@83c4d26aa4d240 @antje.smilesyft @oreeldadln @Deluxe if you have any MWEs that isolate and demonstrate just this behaviour, please share them with me.
Thanks!
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### Author:  [@oreeldadln](https://community.thunkable.com/u/oreeldadln)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 11:39am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/37 "2021-01-14T11:39:09Z")
“When starts” is working, but it doesn’t help me because i need some specific code to run everytime the screen opens and not only when it starts.
is there any way to surpuse it with blocks and do something so my code will run in this situation untill you will release a fix?
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### Author:  [@bader\_mouti](https://community.thunkable.com/u/bader_mouti)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 10:57am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/38 "2021-01-14T10:57:31Z")
i have a problem with Data\_Viewer on ios
when i open the Data\_Viewer screen its loading normal and
when i click the Data\_Viewer items its navigate me to the next screen and loading the items normal
but when i swipe the screen to back to Data\_Viewer screen on ios the Data\_Viewer not showing the items
anyone have this problem too ???
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### Author:  [@drted](https://community.thunkable.com/u/drted)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 11:02am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/39 "2021-01-14T11:02:36Z")
Something like this ?
> [@Issue with "when Screen Starts" event since Jan 12, 2021](http://community.thunkable.com/t/multiple-issues-since-yesterday-anyone-else/1047954/13):
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### Author:  [@bader\_mouti](https://community.thunkable.com/u/bader_mouti)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 11:09am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/40 "2021-01-14T11:09:29Z")
yes exactly
and some times when i run the app its not showing the Data\_Viewer items
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### Author:  [@domhnallohanlon](https://community.thunkable.com/u/domhnallohanlon)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 11:20am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/41 "2021-01-14T11:20:25Z")
@bader_mouti and in your app are you using a `when screen opens` block as well?
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### Author:  [@bader\_mouti](https://community.thunkable.com/u/bader_mouti)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 11:22am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/42 "2021-01-14T11:22:15Z")
yes i did
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### Author:  [@domhnallohanlon](https://community.thunkable.com/u/domhnallohanlon)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 11:49am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/43 "2021-01-14T11:49:31Z")
Ok, thanks @bader_mouti - seems like it’s probably the same thing so merging your topic with this one.
I’m going to narrow the scope of this topic now to just issues with **screen opens** or **screen starts** blocks.
If anyone has any other issues, please create a new topic.
@bader_mouti just flagging my request to the others again too:
> [@domhnallohanlon](#):
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> if you have any MWEs that isolate and demonstrate just this behaviour, please share them with me.
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### Author:  [@oreeldadln](https://community.thunkable.com/u/oreeldadln)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 12:05pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/44 "2021-01-14T12:05:50Z")
🙏 please fix it as soon as you can
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### Author:  [@domhnallohanlon](https://community.thunkable.com/u/domhnallohanlon)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 12:15pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/45 "2021-01-14T12:15:11Z")
@oreeldadln, right now I’m working to identify the source of the problem and reliably reproduce it.
Once done, we can look at a fix.
Again, if you have any sample projects or materials that can help with this then I would appreciate your assistance.
Thanks!
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### Author:  [@caminostudio](https://community.thunkable.com/u/caminostudio)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 12:19pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/46 "2021-01-14T12:19:14Z")
Problems since yesterday. After reading this post, I changed from “When screen starts” to “When screen open” and everything went back to working. Thanks.
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### Author:  [@domhnallohanlon](https://community.thunkable.com/u/domhnallohanlon)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 12:25pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/47 "2021-01-14T12:25:41Z")
Thank you @caminostudio - that helped!
Was just able to replicate the described behaviour with this info, much obliged. I’ve updated the topic title accordingly.
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@83c4d26aa4d240 @antje.smilesyft @oreeldadln @Deluxe @bader_mouti
Many of you have mentioned you were having issues with the screen opens block, can you clarify/provide screenshots of if this is the `opens` or the `starts` event?
Thanks
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### Author:  [@83c4d26aa4d240](https://community.thunkable.com/u/83c4d26aa4d240)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2021, 12:30pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/issue-with-when-screen-starts-event-since-jan-12-2021/1047954/48 "2021-01-14T12:30:43Z")
I can send you a project where you can see some of this behavior in private if you need
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