# Clarification on "Starts" and "Opens" **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions about Thunkable X\ **Created:** [September 15, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/clarification-on-starts-and-opens/46959 "2018-09-15T18:26:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Techbot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/techbot/32/11087_2.png) [@Techbot](https://community.thunkable.com/u/Techbot)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/clarification-on-starts-and-opens/46959/1 "2018-09-15T18:26:29Z")
The tooltips aren’t written in yet, and I’m having a hard time deciding which of these options is equivalent to “Initialize” for a screen. I have my Screen1, but do I use “When Starts” or “When Opens”? I tried both, with problems on each, but when I have both in there together, with the exact same coding, my screen seems to “initialize” fine ![Capture](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/thunkable/original/3X/8/4/84eedabd1697900d4260ab90132b5ee88e92a891.PNG) ---
**Author:** ![AcrobatEpee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/acrobatepee/32/26336_2.png) [@AcrobatEpee](https://community.thunkable.com/u/AcrobatEpee)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/clarification-on-starts-and-opens/46959/2 "2018-09-15T19:40:43Z")
starts when it opens for the first time (once you close the app it starts again Opens everytime the screen opens ---
**Author:** ![Techbot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/techbot/32/11087_2.png) [@Techbot](https://community.thunkable.com/u/Techbot)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/clarification-on-starts-and-opens/46959/3 "2018-09-15T19:45:09Z")
hmmm so, if I’m pulling info from a TinyDB, and returning here after different screens, it would be best to keep both? One for first time start up and the other for anytime a screen returns to this one? ---
**Author:** ![AcrobatEpee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/acrobatepee/32/26336_2.png) [@AcrobatEpee](https://community.thunkable.com/u/AcrobatEpee)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/clarification-on-starts-and-opens/46959/4 "2018-09-15T20:14:13Z")
opens make the job because even when you open for the first time the screen still “opens” ---
**Author:** ![Italo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cdc98d/32.png) [@Italo](https://community.thunkable.com/u/Italo)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/clarification-on-starts-and-opens/46959/5 "2018-09-16T00:22:06Z")
If you need to have both, you can simplify it by making it a procedure, so when you need to change something, you don’t need to change it twice. ---
**Author:** ![Techbot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/techbot/32/11087_2.png) [@Techbot](https://community.thunkable.com/u/Techbot)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/clarification-on-starts-and-opens/46959/6 "2018-09-16T18:08:09Z")
So these work like “Initialize” and “When Other Screen Closes” ---
**Author:** ![AcrobatEpee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/acrobatepee/32/26336_2.png) [@AcrobatEpee](https://community.thunkable.com/u/AcrobatEpee)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/clarification-on-starts-and-opens/46959/7 "2018-09-16T18:20:32Z")
Open is initialize and start is when it starts from the first time ---
**Author:** ![ioannis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/ioannis/32/146956_2.png) [@ioannis](https://community.thunkable.com/u/ioannis)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 11:55am UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/clarification-on-starts-and-opens/46959/8 "2024-11-08T11:55:32Z")