# Application size initially already voluminous

**URL:** <https://community.thunkable.com/t/application-size-initially-already-voluminous/1078152>\
**Category:** Questions about Thunkable X\
**Created:** [February 1, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/application-size-initially-already-voluminous/1078152 "2021-02-01T17:45:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![team.eps.numeriqueg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@team.eps.numeriqueg](https://community.thunkable.com/u/team.eps.numeriqueg)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/application-size-initially-already-voluminous/1078152/1 "2021-02-01T17:45:16Z")

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Hello, is it normal that the application is directly 30MB as soon as you start it (without even having added any files). It seems to me that the applications are limited to 50MB but what do we do if they are already so big at the beginning?

Thanks for help

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**Author:** ![sketch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/sketch/32/109058_2.png) [@sketch](https://community.thunkable.com/u/sketch)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 6:40pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/application-size-initially-already-voluminous/1078152/2 "2021-02-01T18:40:10Z")

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Yes  
Its normal that applications are 30+ MB  
I honestly don’t know how to fix it.

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**Author:** ![team.eps.numeriqueg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@team.eps.numeriqueg](https://community.thunkable.com/u/team.eps.numeriqueg)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/application-size-initially-already-voluminous/1078152/3 "2021-02-01T19:03:44Z")

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I don’t understand how the app can get so big from the start. Is this not likely to pose a problem, given that the maximum size of applications is 50MB?

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**Author:** ![drted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/drted/32/92694_2.png) [@drted](https://community.thunkable.com/u/drted)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/application-size-initially-already-voluminous/1078152/4 "2021-02-01T19:07:18Z")

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Reported and discussed many times.

> [@\[Solved\] Can we remove the Chromebook Libraries from the Thunkable APK exports please?](http://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-can-we-remove-the-chromebook-libraries-from-the-thunkable-apk-exports-please/638687/3):
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> Hi @hdawc, Thanks for posting about this. Unfortunately I can’t promise any immediate major reduction in app size as there is no silver bullet. But, I do want to go into a bit more detail about this issue. First off, I do believe we want a universal apk experience (at the moment at least), even at the expense of apk size, in order to provide the simplest experience for the most users. For example, @jose pointed out that the most performant emulator requires the x86 instructions, and the emulat…

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**Author:** ![domhnallohanlon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/domhnallohanlon/32/29554_2.png) [@domhnallohanlon](https://community.thunkable.com/u/domhnallohanlon)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 10:39pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/application-size-initially-already-voluminous/1078152/5 "2021-02-01T22:39:07Z")

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> [@team.eps.numeriqueg](#):
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> given that the maximum size of applications is 50MB?

Hey @team.eps.numeriqueg the max size for your _project_ is 50 MB, essentially you have 50MB for assets like images, animation, audio, video etc.

For example, this project is using 0.09 MB of that 50 MB allowance.

[https://x.thunkable.com/projectPage/5ea1744cb8de1849436151db](https://x.thunkable.com/projectPage/5ea1744cb8de1849436151db)

As @drted mentions, the build size is more due to the fact that an APK from Thunkable will run on pretty much any recent Android device.

> [@team.eps.numeriqueg](#):
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> is it normal that the application is directly 30MB

Given that most modern Android devices have 1,000s of MB of storage, wondering if you’ve had and feedback from your users about the 30MB app size?

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**Author:** ![Deluxe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/deluxe/32/30016_2.png) [@Deluxe](https://community.thunkable.com/u/Deluxe)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 10:59pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/application-size-initially-already-voluminous/1078152/6 "2021-02-01T22:59:06Z")

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> [@domhnallohanlon](#):
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> Given that most modern Android devices have 1,000s of MB of storage, wondering if you’ve had and feedback from your users about the 30MB app size?

Sure, but the point is not whether modern phones have enough storage but rather if it makes sense for a i.e. single screen app to be 30 MB large.

Don’t get me wrong, despite the fact that I don’t like it, I understand the reasons why an almost empty app can be that large and I develop my apps with this limitation in mind. This has been discussed in multiple other threads and I am looking forward for App Bundles (.aab) support which I assume will fix the issue and allow us to add more assets in our apps without having to download them from mediaDB or other resources.

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**Author:** ![team.eps.numeriqueg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@team.eps.numeriqueg](https://community.thunkable.com/u/team.eps.numeriqueg)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 12:28pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/application-size-initially-already-voluminous/1078152/7 "2021-02-02T12:28:10Z")

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@domhnallohanlon  
As specified in: @Deluxe , I just find it strange that an empty application is 30MB. Would it be possible to decrease this size or ways to import images without increasing the size of the project. Knowing that I must be able to put images, this is particularly difficult without exceeding the limit

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**Author:** ![Deluxe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/deluxe/32/30016_2.png) [@Deluxe](https://community.thunkable.com/u/Deluxe)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 12:40pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/application-size-initially-already-voluminous/1078152/8 "2021-02-02T12:40:01Z")

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It is currently not. You need to factor this in your apps design.

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**Author:** ![team.eps.numeriqueg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@team.eps.numeriqueg](https://community.thunkable.com/u/team.eps.numeriqueg)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 12:43pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/application-size-initially-already-voluminous/1078152/9 "2021-02-02T12:43:26Z")

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Thanks for your help @Deluxe

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**Author:** ![luv.ak.tech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/luv.ak.tech/32/104896_2.png) [@luv.ak.tech](https://community.thunkable.com/u/luv.ak.tech)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 1:32pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/application-size-initially-already-voluminous/1078152/10 "2021-02-02T13:32:34Z")

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in your assets you can get url of each and in blocks just use url of assets instead of uploading assets

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**Author:** ![domhnallohanlon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/domhnallohanlon/32/29554_2.png) [@domhnallohanlon](https://community.thunkable.com/u/domhnallohanlon)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 10:10pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/application-size-initially-already-voluminous/1078152/11 "2021-02-13T22:10:35Z")

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> [@Deluxe](#):
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> (Does) it makes sense for a i.e. single screen app to be 30 MB large.

@Deluxe @team.eps.numeriqueg as @drted points out above there is a full explanation of the reasoning behind this in the community already;

> [@drted](#):
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> Reported and discussed many times.
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> [[Solved] Can we remove the Chromebook Libraries from the Thunkable APK exports please? - #3 by mike](https://community.thunkable.com/t/solved-can-we-remove-the-chromebook-libraries-from-the-thunkable-apk-exports-please/638687/3)

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**Author:** ![Deluxe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/deluxe/32/30016_2.png) [@Deluxe](https://community.thunkable.com/u/Deluxe)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 10:22pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/application-size-initially-already-voluminous/1078152/12 "2021-02-13T22:22:45Z")

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The reasoning you refer to is technology-oriented, not end-user oriented. You need to understand the difference between the two. As previously stated:

> [@Deluxe](#):
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> I understand the reasons why an almost empty app can be that large

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**Author:** ![ioannis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.thunkable.com/ioannis/32/146956_2.png) [@ioannis](https://community.thunkable.com/u/ioannis)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 1:29pm UTC](https://community.thunkable.com/t/application-size-initially-already-voluminous/1078152/14 "2024-11-08T13:29:42Z")

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